I bought a Sony Records CD and a CD+DVD by Warner Music Group. I think that not doing something because “the big companies are bad” is stupid.
I bought a collection of songs by Simon and Garfunkel and a CD+DVD by R.E.M. and I don’t think there is nothing wrong with D.R.M. and stupid and copy-systems. They will not stop people from reading the information 40 or 50 years from now. They serve a short time porpuse of protecting someones investment. Just a few years after they are release those schemes are cracked so historians can be confident that in 60-600 years the data will be available.
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I am sad for you. First because cracking that tecnology is illegal. Second, because we should not have the need to depend on some guy, wanting to do a crack. Third, it is obnoxious to depend on something illegal to read the information of something we legally bought. I know people who can not play DVDs with DRM in their computers, just because they do not want to have illegal software.
First, They are not cracked a few years after. They are cracked a few days at most. Since they are cracked, how exactly are they protecting someones investment? And isn’t it annoying to have to crack something you bought and own just so you can listen to it in an mp3 player?
But hey. If you don’t mind being treated like a criminal by “the big companies”, go ahead. keep supporting DRM.
Today’s commercial DRM is stupid.
Is so stupid that it has killed itself… at least in the music case.
Cracks are something that every IT system has to deal with. There’s nothing 100% secure. The time to crack a system depends (almost) only on the interest the attacker(s) has on cracking the system, and the impact that will have.
Simple as that…
I don’t usually give money to those I despise. You might find that stupid - you’re on your right - but I don’t really think it’s something that strange…
They’re stupid but there’s nothing wrong with them? Talk me about incongruency…
You also can’t stop piracy, and still you don’t say that buying CD’s is stupid just because piracy is unstoppable.
I disagree. It is an well-known fact that we (humanity) tend to store more and more info in media with less and less longevity. There’s a lot of research nowadays on how to preserve data, specially because of that, and it’s a well-accepted fact in those research fields that there’s a need for a standard format to store it. I have a load of music with less than 60 years in formats you’re probably not able to read. Furthermore, I have no way to convert that data into a better media format (like digitalize it). I cannot understand how can you claim that in 60 years we’ll still have access to that music in one crippled CD where some of them even specifficly say stuff like “works only under Windows 98 or Mac OS 9.x”…
If you want to say “boycotting companies you don’t like is stupid”, while I do not agree, it’s a valid claim and oppinion. But your post as it is makes no sense at all.
@Paula: Present me with a single case in Portugal where a person has been charged for using so called illegal software to see a movie that they have legal access to.
@Mind Booster: I find it interesting the away you look at just a particular part of the issue and try to come up with a construct to the all problem. The more important issue is “how to read a non crippled cd in 60 years”, and most of the research is in that area.
To all Anti-DRM people out there. Please stop complaining and accept the world as it is. If you don’t like it please come up with good alternatives instead of just bitching about it. Design a good anti-piracy scheme that enables all those that have legal right to the information to access it.
This reminds me a bit about the Pescanova issue. It is always easy to say that something is bad or wrong. Coming up with good alternatives…. that takes effort.
We’re in Portugal, not somewhere where common law is applied. In Portugal, as any other country with a non-common law legal system, you don’t need (and it doesn’t change nothing) a prior case: the fact that no one was ever charged for using software to avoid DRM only tells us that until now no one was taken into court for that. Since the Portuguese law says that you can’t try to avoid DRM, doing it is illegal.
Yes, the point of research is “how to read a non-crippled CD in 60 years”, since the concept of crippled CD’s is absurd. Yet, there are some companies that insist in making them… And I don’t like it, so I don’t give them money.
But if you are really one of those people that “stop complaining and accept the world as it is”, then I understand why you don’t care about DRM - or anything, in fact. People are different, I know, but not only I’m not one of those people, but also I can’t really understand what’s the point of living if you consider that you don’t (nor should try) to make a difference.
I, in fact, am Anti-DRM. I also won’t stop complaining until my complaints get heard. And yes, I also try to find solutions, but the real, fast and direct way to erradicate the DRM menace is simply… stop using DRM. Media companies don’t need “a good anti-piracy scheme” or an anti-piracy scheme at all. But they need to learn not to treat their clients as criminals.
Please take care with your words. I’m starting to get really feed up with that “I’m so good atitude”. As I have said in the past simply saying that something is bad or wrong will not fix it. If one wants change one needs to learn how to change the world. Your opinion on anti-DRM counts to 0 as long as you don’t understand that companies want it and will use it in one form or the other. It is better that they use it in a form that satisfies both needs.
But coming up with that solution means hard work, and so it is better to bitch.
Please take care with your words. Just because in your oppinion the “solution” is to have a not-so-bad implementation of DRM doesn’t mean that, because I don’t want to develop it, that I just “bitch instead of coming up with that solution”.
I don’t believe DRM - any implementation - is the sollution. I believe that banishing DRM is the sollution. Just don’t be so naive as to believe that I “only bitch” and do nothing. I do - and I’m fighting in many ways to have a DRM-free world. That includes informing people about the issue (even if that can be seen as “bitching”), and that includes boycotting companies that adopt DRM schemes treating their customers like criminals (even if that can be seen as “stupid”). But that also means lot’s of other things, like, for instance, that I believe that the actual Portuguese legislation is wrong and that I’ll fight to see it changed.
So no, I won’t stop saying that DRM is bad and start to design a “better DRM”, because I believe that DRM is bad, and that any DRM scheme is bad (even if some are worse than others). But no, that does not mean that I’m just “bitching because acting is harder”.
@Gustavo:
I did not said that someone was charged, I said that it is illegal.
You are in a country that has a law. So, if you break the law you are making something illegal.
Like it or not.
Oh you can say “everbody does it, nobody is accused”, but do not think that people who want to do the right thing are the weird or devious people.
And it is not a question of getting real either or accepting the world or other soundbyte like that.
You seem to think that people that fight DRM schemes does nothing about it. That’s simple: people who fight DRM do not believe in a DRM scheme that will not restrict you from doing what you have right to do.
DRM is not a solution. Education is.
(ironic) But no, filling cds and dvds with DRM is more easy. Why educate people on this? No, let’s put this kind of schemes on devices. There are people who can not see them? Who cares? (/ironic) pfft…
And, yes, if consumers did not bought cd and dvds with DRM, DRM would disapear.
Big companies just do what the colective of buyers let them do.
But hey, if you want and/or like those bands’ cds so bad go a head. They must be really awesome!
@paula & @mindbooster
As in this and other issues my believe is that pushing a change to someone that does not want it is very hard. I believe in finding a compromise.