Comments on: Metropolis [Fritz Lang, 1927] - a dystopia? http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/ Life, the universe and all the rest Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:32:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Mind Booster Noori http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25558 Mind Booster Noori Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:29:31 +0000 http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25558 :-) Thanks for the post... <blockquote>a dystopia is an abnormal place or a place where something abnormal occurs</blockquote> Hmm, my definition goes beyond that. My concept of dystopia is "a [fictional?] representation of a world or society that is the antithesis of an utopia". And, well, we can't really say that "a normal place" is the same as "an utopic place" can we? ;-) <blockquote>I am using “1984″ and “The Brave New World” for comparison because I know them. I do not know the others mentioned in the post.</blockquote> Well, if you liked those two, I really have to recommend you "We", from Zamiatine. It's less known, but it is my favourite. <blockquote>So, for me the frame of Metropolis is a society that is supported by slaves.</blockquote> That, added to the fact that those slaves are the general population, they don't understand that they're slaves, and they have a role in a society that "works" and is "stable", even if that means that its citizens are no longer "human" (psychologicly-wide), is what make me think on Metropolis as a dystopia. There aren't that much differences between those "slaves" and those living under the eye of the Big Brother, or those geneticly-changed beings that are created to fulfill a certain purpose, right? :-) Thanks for the post…

a dystopia is an abnormal place or a place where something abnormal occurs

Hmm, my definition goes beyond that. My concept of dystopia is “a [fictional?] representation of a world or society that is the antithesis of an utopia”. And, well, we can’t really say that “a normal place” is the same as “an utopic place” can we? ;-)

I am using “1984″ and “The Brave New World” for comparison because I know them. I do not know the others mentioned in the post.

Well, if you liked those two, I really have to recommend you “We”, from Zamiatine. It’s less known, but it is my favourite.

So, for me the frame of Metropolis is a society that is supported by slaves.

That, added to the fact that those slaves are the general population, they don’t understand that they’re slaves, and they have a role in a society that “works” and is “stable”, even if that means that its citizens are no longer “human” (psychologicly-wide), is what make me think on Metropolis as a dystopia. There aren’t that much differences between those “slaves” and those living under the eye of the Big Brother, or those geneticly-changed beings that are created to fulfill a certain purpose, right?

]]> By: Gustavo Felisberto http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25552 Gustavo Felisberto Sat, 25 Nov 2006 15:54:04 +0000 http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25552 <blockquote>So, we have a movie and a hero, the good guy, and this guy kills people (Did you noticed the paradox? The hero, the good guy, kills people).</blockquote> Today I'll probably go out to see a popcorn movie because last night I stayed home and watched a very disturbing movie I'll talk about in a post one of these days. But about the popcorn movie... I'll probably go see the latest 007 movie where the Hero kills allot of people. <blockquote>“but he kills people for good reasons”</blockquote> Maybe that is true, and maybe that is not true. Last week I saw a re-run of one of the older Bond movies when Bond drives a Tank in the middle of Saint Petersburg (Leningrad). In that scene and the ones before he kills many Russian soldiers. <blockquote>"He was being falsely acused and had to escape to prove his innosense."</blockquote> But those where note thugs, or mercenary. Those where normal soldiers that where just doing they're job, protecting what mother Nation told them was correct. There are no hero's today...... Maybe they'll make a movie about it... "The last hero"

So, we have a movie and a hero, the good guy, and this guy kills people (Did you noticed the paradox? The hero, the good guy, kills people).

Today I’ll probably go out to see a popcorn movie because last night I stayed home and watched a very disturbing movie I’ll talk about in a post one of these days. But about the popcorn movie… I’ll probably go see the latest 007 movie where the Hero kills allot of people.

“but he kills people for good reasons”

Maybe that is true, and maybe that is not true. Last week I saw a re-run of one of the older Bond movies when Bond drives a Tank in the middle of Saint Petersburg (Leningrad). In that scene and the ones before he kills many Russian soldiers.

“He was being falsely acused and had to escape to prove his innosense.”

But those where note thugs, or mercenary. Those where normal soldiers that where just doing they’re job, protecting what mother Nation told them was correct.

There are no hero’s today……

Maybe they’ll make a movie about it… “The last hero”

]]> By: Paula Simões http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25551 Paula Simões Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:20:46 +0000 http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25551 oh, I do not think it was dumb question at all :-) I suppose that if I landed in this house and see that people here are Portuguese, but they write in English and in Portuguese, I would be surprised too. I was thinking about this and, in fact, what concerns me I do not even have a rule for this. It would be more understandable if I wrote in English for technology, for instance, and in Portuguese for other subjects, but it is not the case. I change languages in an aleatory strange kind of way :-D And of course it is your business, every time a person became a reader of a text, things concerning that text became his/her business. I really like to see readers as co-authors of a text :-) oh, I do not think it was dumb question at all :-) I suppose that if I landed in this house and see that people here are Portuguese, but they write in English and in Portuguese, I would be surprised too. I was thinking about this and, in fact, what concerns me I do not even have a rule for this. It would be more understandable if I wrote in English for technology, for instance, and in Portuguese for other subjects, but it is not the case. I change languages in an aleatory strange kind of way :-D
And of course it is your business, every time a person became a reader of a text, things concerning that text became his/her business.
I really like to see readers as co-authors of a text :-)

]]> By: ac http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25550 ac Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:24:32 +0000 http://blog.felisberto.net/2006/11/25/metropolis-fritz-lang-1927-a-dystopia/#comment-25550 hey, i was just asking. it was a dumb none-of-my-business question, anyway. hey, i was just asking. it was a dumb none-of-my-business question, anyway.

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